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<h2>Stream: <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/index.html">project-error-handling</a></h2>
<h3>Topic: <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html">Meeting 2020-11-09</a></h3>

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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216119814" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216119814">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>Reminder, meeting is in 11 minutes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216120147" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216120147">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>and here is our agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216120155" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216120155">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:52)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://hackmd.io/nWygbY49Rda-jXP4Qe1P8g">https://hackmd.io/nWygbY49Rda-jXP4Qe1P8g</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216120384" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216120384">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Don't we have another hour? :o</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216120643" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216120643">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>Daylight savings strikes again? Our meetings are pinned to UTC so didn’t shift when some regions did</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216120676" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216120676">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>we are pinned to UTC</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216120688" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216120688">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>so it changed in when PST changed to PDT (or is it the other way?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216120702" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216120702">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>i figured we should stick with the current time on the libs team calendar</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216120706" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216120706">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>which is now 10am</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216120769" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216120769">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we need we can adjust it back to 11</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216120808" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216120808">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>if everyone else already expected it to be in an hour more then I don't see any harm in siwtching it rn</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216120826" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216120826">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, then yea I'm going to miss today's meeting :o</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216120830" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216120830">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I didn't want to have ppl showing up an hour early and left out to dry</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216120838" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216120838">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>where did the time go?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216121125" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216121125">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>is anyone not okay with moving the meeting to 11 am PST?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216121135" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216121135">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>aka 1 hour from now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216121271" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216121271">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>sounds good to me <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216121283" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216121283">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>Fine by me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216121295" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216121295">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>I’m ok with that too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216121301" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216121301">(Nov 09 2020 at 17:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><time datetime="2020-11-09T19:00:00Z">2020-11-09T20:00:00+01:00</time></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216121351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216121351">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>If we’d like to keep it that way I’ll update our calendar</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216121474" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216121474">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>there is the SIMD meeting right afterwards tho</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216121559" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216121559">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>adds a switching cost to ppl interested in both</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216121650" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216121650">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>unless they lost an hour also <span aria-label="thinking" class="emoji emoji-1f914" role="img" title="thinking">:thinking:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216122104" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216122104">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>time to pick up the skill of being in 2 meetings at the same time <span aria-label="stuck out tongue" class="emoji emoji-1f61b" role="img" title="stuck out tongue">:stuck_out_tongue:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216122215" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216122215">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:06)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="204346">Ashley Mannix</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09/near/216121351">said</a>:</p>
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<p>If we’d like to keep it that way I’ll update our calendar</p>
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<p>probably will want to switch it, but lets coordinate with the SIMD team to make sure we're not making it harder for anyone</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216122241" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216122241">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>if anyone has difficulty with the new time please lmk</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216123156" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216123156">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we bump ahead by 30 min so there is still a buffer?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216123181" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216123181">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>wdym?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216123369" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216123369">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>instead of shifting by 1 hour and butting up to SIMD's start time we only start<br>
30 minutes later and leave a gap</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216123451" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216123451">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>sounds like a good but I don't want to switch things around again on this meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216123536" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216123536">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>but if <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="300743">@Sean Chen</span> will be able to make 10:30 then we should definitely do that for our next meetings</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216123637" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216123637">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh yes of course!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216124276" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216124276">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>That wouldn't work for :/ I have always have something that ends right before this meeting.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216126147" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216126147">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216126160" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216126160">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've added talking about the meeting time to the agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216128477" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216128477">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>4 minute warning</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216128518" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216128518">(Nov 09 2020 at 18:57)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://hackmd.io/nWygbY49Rda-jXP4Qe1P8g">https://hackmd.io/nWygbY49Rda-jXP4Qe1P8g</a> agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216128915" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216128915">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>alrighty</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216128919" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216128919">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>meeting time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129015" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129015">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>we'll start with reviewing action items from last week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129088" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129088">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>for the backtrace in core item I've made no progress, haven't had time, probably unsurprisingly given current events</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129138" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129138">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I hope to get some more work on that done soon, though I'm moving in two weeks so I am not holding my breath short term</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129184" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129184">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>going far?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129198" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129198">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh moving is not fun!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129202" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129202">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>not far</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129210" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129210">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>just across the bay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129223" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129223">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>from SF to east bay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129251" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129251">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>nice!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129289" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129289">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>for object-provider I did some review of the changes nika wrote up and they look good to go</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129310" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129310">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>so ill be tossing those into the RFC and updating it shortly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129364" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129364">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>also I had some discussions with Adam Perry about it with respect to some compiler diagnostic library he was working with</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129389" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129389">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>that seems to be based on the <code>Diagnostic</code> type in rustc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129412" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129412">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>and realized that we should be using rustc errors as an example in the RFC</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129442" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129442">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>the object provider API might be useful for getting rustc error reporting to work within the error trait nicely</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129455" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129455">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>which I think would be a good little proof of concept that the design is flexible in the needed ways</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129512" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129512">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I've spent a lot of time in the last two weeks thinking about this, and how the object provider api + universal reporter could be used together to implement rustc error reporting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129525" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129525">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeh, if we can do Rust diagnostics through this mechanism then it would at least be provably powerful</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129560" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129560">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I still don't really have a good idea forward on how to prototype this all</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129564" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129564">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>the object provider bit is easy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129624" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129624">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>but the universal reporting bit is still messy and depends on features that don't exist yet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129663" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129663">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>i keep using object provider when i mean generic member access</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129675" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129675">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>so mentally substitute that in your heads</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129677" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129677">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>lol</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129680" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129680">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyways</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129708" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129708">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's where I'm at on those two tasks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129742" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129742">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="204346">@Ashley Mannix</span> can you give a summary on the FCP for impl error for <code>&amp;'a E</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129745" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129745">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I haven't caught up on all the previous design discussion that's been happening here. Is this all stuff you've laid out earlier?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129759" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129759">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="204346">@Ashley Mannix</span> the universal error reporter stuff is new</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129763" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129763">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah let's have a look!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129764" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129764">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>and very in progress</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129807" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129807">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>the generic member access RFC is pretty much complete, I just need to update some implementation details and now add more documented examples</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129886" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129886">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>which will likely involve digging through the compiler to see how it handles error reporting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129917" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129917">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Looks like <code>&amp;'a E</code> is now in its final comment period, so we can start patching libraries that it will break and once it's ready to go it'll show up in <code>1.49.0</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216129936" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216129936">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>nice!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130067" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130067">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay so next up is "Review the “Fix the error trait” tracking issue to figure out next steps (Oliver + Ashley Mannix)"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130088" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130088">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130098" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130098">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>Wow where did two week go?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130107" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130107">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130108" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130108">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I dropped the ball on that one and never ended up checking in on it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130142" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130142">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>no worries</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130149" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130149">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm looking forward to collaborating when the time is right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130161" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130161">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>ill move that to next meeting's action items then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130211" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130211">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>likewise I didn't get aroudn to reviewing the panic plan RFC or reaching out to the error codes issue author</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130219" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130219">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>so ill carry those over as well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130244" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Mara <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130244">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>the panic plan rfc is now waiting for the fcp checkboxes. four more to go</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130248" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130248">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay so im gonna hold off on going over the reporter stuff for now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130264" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130264">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>because I think that might turn into a longer discussion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130309" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130309">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="300743">@Sean Chen</span> hows the blog post</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130388" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130388">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Haven't put in the suggested changes yet, but I'll probably get to that this week :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130490" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130490">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>sounds good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130521" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130521">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>so we never assigned the "start writing chapters" item from last meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130542" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130542">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>so gonna carry that one over</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130585" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130585">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>last item is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130593" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130593">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we can put out a call for collection of references?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130602" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130602">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Resolve blockers in the backtrace stabilizition PR (Ashley Mannix)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130628" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130628">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="281739">oliver</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09/near/216130593">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>maybe we can put out a call for collection of references?</p>
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<p>Sounds like a good idea, I can think of quite a few off of the top of my head</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130646" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130646">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>lets start by making an issue in the repo actually</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130655" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130655">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>and populating it with relevant material that we can find ourselves</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130686" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130686">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>exactly, someplace to put links and other preliminary research</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130711" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130711">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>so we can get some more structure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130836" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130836">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>and remember about curating it ourselves :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130854" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130854">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="204346">@Ashley Mannix</span> iirc last time we left off the issue with backtrace was that it had different implementations used for panics and errors</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130891" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130891">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>and iirc we found the reason for that was that the panic backtrace resolver can resolve frames while oom</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130904" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130904">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>or in the presence of memory errors</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130910" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130910">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>or something along those lines</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130939" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130939">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>We're pretty happy that the backtrace in core issue should be resolved. We just need to get that unlisted as a concern in the FCP. I was also just typing out exactly the same thing there about error vs panic backtraces :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130962" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130962">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>perfect</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216130983" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216130983">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>So there is more code we could share between the implementations, but I don't think any of that has implications for the API</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131075" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131075">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>for the "unlisted as a concern in the FCP", is this currently blocked</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131088" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131088">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>i know I haven't finished the implementation yet to prove that it works</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131116" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131116">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>trying to gauge if I need to finish that to get backtrace stabilization underway or if we're good to move forward now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131147" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131147">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>It's only blocked on Amanieu having a bit of time to look through the recent discussion and mark their concern as resolved</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131163" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131163">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>awesome</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131177" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131177">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>can I rely on you to follow up with Amanieu?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131194" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131194">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>aka can I assign the follow up to you</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131272" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131272">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yep <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span> They've indicated they haven't had much time for Rust work lately but that should change sometime soon</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131297" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131297">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>awesome</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131305" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131305">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay so last action item</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131326" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131326">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Discuss universally consistent error reporting</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131332" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131332">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>In the meantime I might check out why we format panic backtraces differently</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131348" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131348">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>so we've been doing this,</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131392" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131392">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd say we're currently very much in the "throwing ideas around to see what sticks" phase of things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131514" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131514">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>the basic idea is that we're trying to find a way to introduce a "Reporter" that handles displaying <code>E: Error</code> objects, and additionally captures or holds context relevant to those errors</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131534" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131534">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we might want to extend it to also handle <code>PanicInfo</code> objects</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131555" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131555">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I think its a relatively natural fit to the design of the Error trait</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131587" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131587">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>where its made in such a way where you _have_ to have another party come along and invoke the source method to print all the errors in the chain</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131628" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131628">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>PanicInfo already has this handled by a the hook from <code>set_hook</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131644" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131644">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>so unifying that is gonna be a challenge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131787" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131787">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you think we should start something on internals?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131797" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131797">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I'm gonna stop there, don't want to turn this meeting into a whiteboarding session until we've gone thru the full agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131873" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131873">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="281739">oliver</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09/near/216131787">said</a>:</p>
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<p>do you think we should start something on internals?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I was thinking a blog post soon might be in order</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131885" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131885">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>right of course</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131919" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131919">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I've been mulling over what that would look like in my head</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131964" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131964">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>how to present it?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216131980" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216131980">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>yea, what ideas to focus on</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132005" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132005">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>how to communicate the goals etc etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132020" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132020">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>ill probaly draft something soon</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132046" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132046">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>and run it by the project group</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132111" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132111">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay but thats all the previous action items</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132117" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132117">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, best to have a concept visualisation</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132131" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132131">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>next up, tracked issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132140" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132140">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/project-error-handling/projects/1">https://github.com/rust-lang/project-error-handling/projects/1</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132154" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132154">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think boats has done a good job of that style of post in the past</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132162" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132162">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>heres our project board</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132211" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132211">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>so <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="300743">@Sean Chen</span> has been working on the frames fn</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132242" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132242">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>iirc that was recently unblocked</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132261" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132261">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also haven't made progress on that yet, but hopefully I'll have time this week :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132273" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132273">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="thumbs up" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="thumbs up">:thumbs_up:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132347" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132347">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>If by "blocked", you mean not making any progress on it since I was prepping for my RustFest talk, then yes <span aria-label="grinning face with smiling eyes" class="emoji emoji-1f601" role="img" title="grinning face with smiling eyes">:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132390" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132390">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeh, so in the PR I left a suggestion we use a wrapper to return a borrow to data behind a <code>Mutex</code>. To be on the safe side I'm thinking we should probably just materialize a <code>Vec</code>, but still keep it behind that wrapper</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132397" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132397">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>great talk btw</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132405" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132405">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="300743">Sean Chen</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09/near/216132347">said</a>:</p>
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<p>If by "blocked", you mean not making any progress on it since I was prepping for my RustFest talk, then yes <span aria-label="grinning face with smiling eyes" class="emoji emoji-1f601" role="img" title="grinning face with smiling eyes">:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:</span></p>
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<p>lol, that and the question about the lock that ashley answered 3 days ago</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132440" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132440">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh right, that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132480" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132480">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>nicer asserts, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="344328">@Charles Ellis O'Riley Jr.</span> is working on i think, tho he wasn't able to attend the meeting today</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132526" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132526">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't really know where the PanicInfo::message RFC is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132544" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132544">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>i think <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120823">@DPC</span> was digging into that one?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132551" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Mara <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132551">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>de-vri-es</code> is doing some work related to that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132561" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132561">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>ooh cool</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132568" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132568">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="204346">Ashley Mannix</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09/near/216132390">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Yeh, so in the PR I left a suggestion we use a wrapper to return a borrow to data behind a <code>Mutex</code>. To be on the safe side I'm thinking we should probably just materialize a <code>Vec</code>, but still keep it behind that wrapper</p>
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<p>Sorry, does this mean that it should return a Vec of backtrace frames instead of a slice?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132580" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132580">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="300743">@Sean Chen</span> I'll leave another comment on the PR <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132647" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Mara <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132647">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>trying to add some kind of <code>AssertionInfo</code> to a <code>PanicInfo</code> that the test crate can use to display things nicer, possibly  with colors etc.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132721" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Mara <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132721">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>without requiring support for colors/whatever in std</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132741" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132741">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>that sounds exciting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132756" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132756">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>can you send me the details on that after the meeting?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132769" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132769">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>Interested to see how it works</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132795" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132795">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>Stabilize the backtrace feature and the fix the error trait issues we've already discussed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132834" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132834">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>what about the <code>Error::type_id</code>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132925" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132925">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>there was some discussion related to that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132945" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132945">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>i see the item in the agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132976" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132976">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I don't see how this document relates to type_id</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216132993" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216132993">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>me neither from a quick look</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133040" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133040">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>jumping to the RFC itself</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133060" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133060">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>no mention of type_id in either doc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133062" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133062">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>lol</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133088" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133088">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>so if nobody knows any details about that discussion and how it relates to Error::type_id I guess we just move on</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133093" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133093">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="eyes" class="emoji emoji-1f440" role="img" title="eyes">:eyes:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133164" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133164">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah, IIRC it should enable a way to have function specializations</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133193" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133193">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="310399">Mara</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09/near/216132551">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><code>de-vri-es</code> is doing some work related to that</p>
</blockquote>
<p>do you have a link?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133200" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133200">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I may be mistaken (vtables are mentioned there)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133237" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133237">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Wait... Stabilizing <code>Error::type_id</code>? <span aria-label="thinking" class="emoji emoji-1f914" role="img" title="thinking">:thinking:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133252" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133252">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>aah, so type_id would be specialized for every type?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133267" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133267">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think that was the concept</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133285" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133285">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>i see (i think)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133292" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133292">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>that it is the only safe way (without any hacks)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133308" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133308">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>either way, I don't see it as a pressing need</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133309" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133309">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>I forgot what the SVE for this was</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133387" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133387">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't know of anyone dying to get their hands on <code>Error::type_id</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133413" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Mara <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133413">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>do you have a link?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>There is nothing of that online yet. But shouldn't take long before there's a proof of concept PR, i bet. :)  Will drop a link in this stream when that happens.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133416" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133416">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>I hope not... It's a quiet little hack that nobody needs to know about</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133434" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133434">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, I don't think we have anything to bubble up to the libs team, other than the already mentioned backtrace stabilization followup</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133486" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133486">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>next agenda item is "Review The Rust Error Book looking to add initial content"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133493" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133493">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we already discussed this item as part of the action items</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133525" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133525">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>ill make sure to write down "create a github issue and gather existing resources to use as references for the error handling book" as an action item</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133539" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133539">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>next we have</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133549" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133549">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>2021 Rust Edition<ul>
<li>Postponed?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133604" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133604">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>not sure who added that item</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133646" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133646">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>are we targeting 2021?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133660" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133660">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>not particularly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133679" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133679">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think we have any major breaking changes in mind atm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133718" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133718">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>and if we do my preference is that we get it into the next edition from whenever we're ready with a proposal for breaking changes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133747" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133747">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>rather than worrying about edition deadlines</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133766" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133766">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>what would a breaking change from us look like do you think?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133770" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133770">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>Besides <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="310399">@Mara</span>'s plan for unifying <code>panic</code> I don't think we have anything that interacts with editions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133867" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133867">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>i could imagine the universal error reporting stuff MAYBE evolving into something that requires a breaking change</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133913" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133913">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>but its way too nebulous atm to even have an idea of how</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133946" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133946">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>though it is on the table</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133962" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133962">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>yea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133964" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Mara <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133964">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>library things changing over an edition is really tricky though.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216133969" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216133969">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess that's all I was curious about</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134031" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134031">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay so last item</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134036" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134036">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>Meeting time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134055" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134055">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>we were scheduled at 6pm UTC</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134129" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134129">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>the simd meeting is at 8 pm UTC</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134140" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134140">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>does anyone here regularly attend both ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134164" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134164">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134167" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134167">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm interested in SIMD</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134177" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jakub Duchniewicz <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134177">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>Im also interested</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134205" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134205">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>and they're keeping their meetings at the same time UTC</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134225" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134225">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>We may want to push SIMD forwards too. I'll see what everyone thinks in there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134231" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134231">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><em>part of me is hoping they will want to shift it back an hour same as we did</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134249" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134249">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, lets see if that happens</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134336" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134336">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>ideally I think we'd both shift back an hour and have that be the end of it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134351">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>otherwise I think we will need to do another poll for meeting times</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134388" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134388">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>It looks like we brought it up briefly last meeting and nobody was against shifting it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134517" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134517">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="204346">@Ashley Mannix</span> what's your local time?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134628" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134628">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="281739">@oliver</span> Over here it's currently 5:45am</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134754" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134754">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>powerful</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134768" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134768">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay well, that's all I have for the meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134798" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134798">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Did we bring up "Reach out to the author of the error codes issue"?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134846" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134846">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>only in passing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134856" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134856">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I didn't get to it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134870" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134870">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>so its rolled over to our next set of action items</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134899" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134899">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I say we call it early</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216134918" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216134918">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks everyone for coming :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216135088" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216135088">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>Calendar is updated with the new time <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216135196" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216135196">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>So we're officially pushing this meeting forward an hour?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216135213" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216135213">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>yea, pending SIMD meeting time discussions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting%202020-11-09/near/216135237" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.202020-11-09.html#216135237">(Nov 09 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>if there end up being conflicts there then we will probably try to find a new time again</p>



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